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Can the Nissan GT-R Handle its Own Engine?

Once again, we return to the realm of the Nissan GT-R, but this time the news is not so good. It seems that a few owners of the coveted sports car have had some issues while stretching the legs of the Twin-Turbo V-6 and they aren't getting a favorable response from Nissan.

The issue all started when the owner of a GT-R began a thread in the North American GT-R Owners Club (NAGTROC) forum that claimed his transmission had failed very soon after he had gotten it. Being a new vehicle and all, it was taken to the dealer from which it was purchased so that it could be repaired. After being looked at by a technician, the problem was determined to be a destroyed tranny that would not be covered under the warranty.

Nissan's reasoning? The GT-R uses a combination of Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC) and Traction Control (TC) to offer 2 different driving experiences. When VDC is turned on, it monitors the front wheel turning angle, body roll and wheel spin when going around corners. It will reduce power if needed to stay within pre-determined limits and keep the vehicle connected with the tarmac. When this is turned off, TC becomes available from which the benefits are obvious...faster acceleration.

The catch is that Nissan refuses to cover any damage to the drive-train under the factory warranty while Traction Control is enabled and therefore VDC is disabled. As most people would be, the owner is highly upset about this and feels that a $40,000 vehicle should be engineered to handle the power it produces. Although it is a valid point, another member of NAGTROC added that "you have to sign a paper saying your warranty is voided if you turn off VDC, and while VDC is off, you cause damage. It is clearly stated in the manual/warranty, as well as is put into writing and you have to sign, when you pick up the car."

The dealer also informed the owner that he/she is among three other owners who are in the same situation. In his post, the owner is asking that the others get in contact with them, assumedly to put pressure on Nissan.

I feel sure this isn't the last we will hear about the Nissan transmission issue.

Hat Tip : NAGTROC

George Delozier
Motorized Innovations
InventorSpot.com

Comments
Oct 11, 2008
by Anonymous

You Launch a car, you race a

You Launch a car, you race a car it is going to break. So what,s the issue. Nothing new hear. What do people think ?

Oct 11, 2008
by Anonymous

The lawyers are scrambling.

Let's see . . . file lawsuit, win money. So what if it was duly noted as 'not covered under warranty'. That's how the system works now. Go figure.

Oct 11, 2008
by Anonymous

rwd plz

no surprise here, hard awd launches = something has to absorb the energy = shit breaks.

rwd plz kthx

Oct 12, 2008
by Anonymous

porsche still reigns supreme!

lets see...nissan is worried about what porsche's allegations are against their time in the german ring? i don't see porsche having any problems with their heralded porsche 911 model lineup. tsk tsk tsk. i knew something like this would happen...but not this soon! still the porsche 911 lineup is still a force to be reckoned with! plus! if i had that amount of cash i wouldn't even dare step foot to buy an $80000+ nissan! let's hope that nothing else on nissan 'supercar' doesn't break.

Oct 13, 2008
by Anonymous

common sense please

do you really think a dealership will cover a car that you have raced? Racing destroyes things, thats why its called racing, its pushing a car to its limits...

would you sell someone something and cover it when they willingly break it??? dont think so....

Oct 14, 2008
by Anonymous

I thought a sports car was supposed to be able to go...... fast?

When you sell a purpose built race car (nissan gtr) it is supposed to be built to handle its purpose (speed). I know the warranty in a corvette C6, Z06, ZR1 isn't voided by launching it, and I doubt it is voided in other purpose built cars such as porsches. Don't claim a car has certain capabilities when it voids the warranty to achieve those capabilities, it's false advertising. I just recently watched an episode of Best Motoring where in a race, the GTR overheated and finished last against a pool of other sports cars. I wouldn't step near this thing for that kind of money.

Oct 16, 2008
by Anonymous

Nissan's Cop-Out?

If the manufacturer allows you to turn VDC off, they should be obligated to make the vehicle capable of functioning with VDC off. They aren't even claiming anyone's "raced" their car, just that a factory installed option was selected.

I understand the warning in the manual, but I can also understand that without further information the consequences of disabling VDC is unclear. If it's going to be used to avoid repairing damage then in addition to warning that it voids the warranty it should spell out why: USE OF THIS OPTION MAY CAUSE DAMAGE TO YOUR VEHICLE.

I also agree with other comments: Other manufacturers have managed to avoid this kind of cop-out (while still banning racing, abuse, etc.). I guess it's commendable for Nissan to give you the option of making the vehicle a pure racing machine, but they don't do a good job of spelling out what can actually happen to your vehicle if you choose to do so.

Oct 17, 2008
by Anonymous

Read the Warantee!

If the warantee says that you are not going to be waranteed against failure with the VDC off, why do you think Nissan should pay for it? Apparently, all owers have to sign a paper saying that you understand this, so there is not excuse. If you want to use the VDC, make sure you have the $$ to fix stuff.

Oct 19, 2008
by Anonymous

I really don't get it.

A sports car is sold to be a go-fast machine, if it can't be engineered to not self-destruct doing what it's sold to do, then it shouldn't be sold.

I've not heard of any other road-going car where a warranty is void if you have a performance button set to "on". I would check with a lawyer on whether the state and federal warranty laws can be legally bypassed with a contract.

Oct 29, 2008
by Anonymous

Idiot-proof performance?!

Why should the warranty cover racing? When you race a car you wear out and break stuff constantly. If that was covered the cars wouldn't be so cheap for what they are. A real performance car should be as fast as possible, not idiot-proof! If you want a car that's covered for everything then buy a Mercedes-Benz.